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Sun "Believes In IP" But Not In "IP Colonialism," Says Schwartz at Open Source Conference
At the Open Source Business Conference taking place today in San Francisco, Sun's President and COO, Jonathan Schwartz emphasized that 'free' equates not to 'no revenue' but instead to 'more opportunity to create revenue.'
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Where's RMS commented on the 7 Apr 2005
verbalistics commented on 6 April 2005: "IP colonialism" is not a phrase that RMS is likely to let go lightly Has he responded at all? Stallman? |
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openSol commented on the 6 Apr 2005
I was there, and Schwartz said true economic growth will come "as people realize that the value is in the service, not in the product itself." I'm not a Sun shareholder, but he is ;-) So I can see why he hopes he's right. |
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Record OS commented on the 6 Apr 2005
For a complete list of Solaris 10 benchmark records, visit here ([visit link]) |
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metastatis commented on the 6 Apr 2005
#blackhedd commented on 6 April 2005: Java is now so big and so corporate that stability is far more valuable to its constituents than innovation.# so should we switch to more agile languages at college or is this the future: has Java metastasized? |
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JS vs RMS commented on the 6 Apr 2005
While the GPL is being modernized, Richard Stallman insists that the core principles won't change; he's not going to budge. Schartz and the GPL have been on a collision course for years now. |
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Sun is right to make sure tha every jvm is compliant with every bytecode. Write once, runs everywhere need to be preserved by all cost. |
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alucinor commented on the 6 Apr 2005
The only fork Sun would fear would be IBM's fork of Java. There would be enterprises that would adopt that, even if it was no longer called "Java". |
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blackhedd commented on the 6 Apr 2005
Java is now so big and so corporate that stability is far more valuable to its constituents than innovation. It will be the development system of choice for corporate development for another decade, providing jobs for all the new and soon-to-be CS graduates who aren't taught anything else. |
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Baki commented on the 6 Apr 2005
||| He answered this criticism by asserting that the licensing of Java was not the issue: Sun wants to keep Java from forking into different incompatible versions, ||| Others might argue that the same forking might happen to PHP, perl etc. However, do not forget that MSFT actually has tried to fork an incompatible version of Java, they never tried such a thing with other 'cross-platform' language. Why? Because Java is the only real threat. Java's real importance is in 'enterprise' development; many large companies have been developing in Java for the last 3-5 years, the importance of Java in such environments dwarfs any other development platform, except maybe for cobol. Thus Java remains the most likely target for sabotage actions, and needs to be protected vehemently. Especially now that Java is in direct competition with .NET, further sabotage actions are not unlikely. .NET is just as protected, if not more (also protected by patents probably). For Java at least the spec is open: anyone may make an alternative implementation. For .NET there is no open formal spec at all, and alternative implementations have an unclear legal status. |
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Free Software vs. Open Source, GPL v2 vs. GPL v3, Java in OpenOffice.org or not - clearly, even those that "presumably" "see" the light are still "recovering" from the dark. Sun is entering the light (however that sounds ;), but rather plays its own game. You couldn't even make out if it's really a proprietary company or an "open source" one (despite their claims). Given its misty strategies it is still unsure if we should call it a Free (as in *freedom*) Software company either. But wait, this is just in. We have just got an unofficial news that Sun is making JRE Free Software by releasing it under LGPL. We better confirm it before the celebration and wiping the "Java in OpenOffice.org drama" from the "issues" book begin. Indeed, if not for OpenSolaris and their funny schemed CDDL license, we would surely respect Sun for freeing JRE (at least JRE) since so many Free Software projects are based or dependant on it (including OpenOffice.org). Sun, you better make it official soon and your contributions to our computing freedoms will be acknowledged! |
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verbalistics commented on the 6 Apr 2005
"IP colonialism" is not a phrase that RMS is likely to let go lightly, he's been known before to send in rebuttals to Sun/J. Schwartz at linuxworld.com - and he's no slugabout with words either!! |
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sfKeynote commented on the 6 Apr 2005
This was cool what he said here: 'Free software does not imply that you no longer believe in IP - it means you no longer believe in charging for IP upon its delivery' - he is darned good with words, Jonathan Schwartz. |
#4 |
sloganeering commented on the 6 Apr 2005
Sun wasn't the dot in dot-com, why should we believe Schwartz's new slogan, that 'The network is *your* computer' [my emphasis]. The open source tide may be rising, but Sun's boat still isn't. OpenSolaris is too little too late. |
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mindstrm commented on the 5 Apr 2005
anyone got an example of some wonderful solaris feature than linux doesn't have? |
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Press watcher commented on the 5 Apr 2005
Anyone notice that JPMorgan's Investment Bank Technology team yesterday chose Solaris 10, now described - in preference to java? - as "Sun's flagship operating system." |
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